QSC is brand known for premium sound and build quality, and the CP8 lets you experience their brand of quality in a compact and affordably priced package. In particular, the CVA-28, the CV P1000X and CV P1500X. Submitted by Gator (not verified) on Jun. The speaker flew from its position and hit the TOP of the rear door putting a sizeable dent in it then fell to the floor. Have you guys into the "Protect Mode 4" problem that seems to be plaguing a lot of newer K10.2s (and supposedly some K12.2s)? He is primarily influenced by guitarists like Kurt Ballou and Paul Gilbert. Overall Thank you Gearspace.com members for 20 years! Hello David Williams Pros We processed over 19,500 of these data sources using the Gearank Algorithm which gave us the rating scores out of 100 that we used to rank the speakers appropriately. BTW you can look up all Samson products we've rated by going to the Music Gear Database. I have some workhouse K12.2s and was considering a pair of K10.2s until I read about this. Incorporating 325+ ratings and reviews. Submitted by Kerwin (not verified) on Apr. Submitted by Jason Horton on Feb. 13, 2020. I get regular comments from other colleagues saying how good they sound. Smaller events only need as much as 2 powered 12"/15" Main speakers and 1 subwoofer. Due to its size, it is often utilized as a floor monitor to great success, as reported by saxophonists, guitarists and other musicians. Submitted by Alexander Briones on Oct. 13, 2016. Overall If you would like the results of your Head to Head comparison to be included in the data set we use when we next update this guide, then write a report/review detailing your results on one of the popular music gear review sites or forums. I have three of the Altos TS112a I use mostly for monitors (a few SOS spoken word applications). Create a username and password below and an account will be created and your post entered. As always, we've included detailed descriptions and specifications for each powered speaker, along with their strengths and weaknesses as reported by actual users. So, with no stores in my area to compare pa systems, I'm curious 26, 2017. Not what you want to happen on gigs. We've also included a highly rated affordable option for those who are working with strict budgets. These all add up to a cleaner, tighter sound and even better long term reliability. All of our product recommendations are guided by a scientific process involving statistical analysis of market sentiment using our proprietary Gearank Algorithm. Finally, all these features are packed inside a traditional and robust plywood enclosure. 96 out of 100. I demoed the 12"Hd32amk4 against the qsc12k.2 Qsc got whooped! This caused part of the woofer to become loose. The Yamaha DBR10 represents great value at the sub-$500 range. !I bought 2 RCF and get compliments from QSC owners!! I'd be extremely surprised if any speaker would survive this without some damage. 20, 2021. Main/Top Image: Created by Gearank.com using photographs of the Mackie Thump15A, QSC K12.2 and Electro-Voice ZLX-15BT. Overall 98 out of 100. And even DJs are happy with its performance when paired with a subwoofer. The K10.2 features a 2000 Watt Class D amplifier paired with a 10" speaker, but what really sets it apart is its built-in DSP, which can be utilized to fine-tune the sound of the speaker - to better fit its intended sound source or venue. The Bose F1 or the QSC 12K2 or the RCF evox 12? Overall Both speakers you mentioned did not out rank the others in their categories, the Yamaha DBR12 was close though. This makes it an equally capable floor monitor or keyboard amplifier. Nirvana! Here at Gearank.com we don't do head-to-head comparisons, we primarily do guides to an overall category. Submitted by George (not verified) on Jun. The individual product images were sourced from websites, promotional materials or supporting documentation provided by their respective manufacturers. -- David Guetta. We only have preliminary ratings for each of the 10", 12" and 15" versions which we haven't published yet. Submitted by Jason Horton on Jun. * Behringer are yet to respond to our request for information. EAW is on our radar, and if they become more popular they will definitely make it onto our short-lists and possibly even get recommended in one or more of our guides. There are plenty of reports of it working great with hip hop music and other genres that require enhanced low frequencies. 26, 2018. 11, 2022. 25, 2018. David here. Others note that the versatility of the unit is also its bane as it's a "Jack-of-all-trades, Master of none" type of speaker. Have you guys run into the "Protect Mode 4" issue on newer QSC K's? Yamaha DXR15s - KX Audio (KV2) KX12s - RCF Art 310As - Yamaha DXR8s - Yamaha DXS12 subs (X2) - Wharfedale Titan 12A - Yamaha MG12/4 - Yorkville PGM8 - Peavey PV10 - Shure cordless - Stanton CD player - Sony Minidisc decks - LED lights - AMDJ dual SD player. Some found the bass a bit too excessive, with a few users wishing for a flat sound option, although 3 of the 4 speaker modes reduce bottom end response - see section 7 in the owner's manual. systems now (powered mains matched with one or two powered subs/mixing board) are not only a million times easier to pack and move, but believe it or not, also actually also SOUND much better!! As its high rating suggests, owners of the QSC K8.2 are very impressed. If you plan on eventually expanding your setup, go for a mixer with more inputs than what you currently need.
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Has anyone on here been able to compare the new Yamaha DBR range to the Alto Truesonic range? The Martin Audio Blackline XP12 isn't widely available in the USA so it didn't meet the criteria to be short-listed for selection - that means we also haven't published a rating for it. 7, 2017. Compared to the CP series, The K series adds premium speakers, DSP and cooling. I also agree with the other posts, you did not even consider JBL and they have the best Mids and Highs, plus value. The three speakers built-into this unit are powered by dedicated Crown amps, all of which have a power rating that adds up to 2000 watts.
The electrovoice powered speakers are really good. 97 out of 100. Knowing what a speaker or amp can handle for a millisecond is absolutely useless. 24, 2021. It's an expensive speaker so full set of speakers for a venue could add up. Many were impressed by how loud the DBR10 is, especially when considering its weight and size. Cons Hi - I'm looking for an upgrade from my Alto TX15 range to either of the above without breaking the bank tooo much. Studiomaster Drive 15A/6A 15" Active. I had one in the back of my van behind the drivers seat and had to do an emergency stop. I found this post with the possible info on the Alto TS4 here :-. I use them for monitors, or mains. 30, 2017. Next we gathered relevant store ratings, written reviews, video reviews and forum discussions about each one - including the latest market feedback up to March 2022. I plugged back into the first speaker to double check and the problem was still there!? Submitted by Jason Horton on Dec. 7, 2021. Note that you can implement multiple speakers in strategic positions for covering larger venues. Pros The newer "modular?" UPDATE: We have since published ratings for the SRM V-Class speakers which you can see here. The sound coming out was horrendously distorting and I thought that I had blown them. Does anyone have experience with these? Several users were amazed by the K10's sound, with commendations coming from a wide variety of backgrounds - from church sound technicians, to musicians, to DJs, and event organizers. i play in a band that consists of multiple synth players and 2 electronic drummers, im pretty set on getting pa style speakers for monitoring, will probably eventually get at least three, a synth player could share a speaker with a drummer. Not a lot of stress on them, classic rock with only a little kick and floor tom for the drummer. For a speaker with 10" woofer, the DBR10 is loud.
The Behringer Eurolive B112D is a popular powered speaker that shows that being affordable doesn't always mean compromising on quality. Also, they are very reliable. The singer in our band bought a couple of the Alto TS112s a few days ago and we used them this weekend for a couple of small pub gigs. Submitted by Jason Horton on Feb. 20, 2017. Germans DB may be price worthy though, you don't need super expensive T&W and the like. Clearly, QSC's premium quality shows as many users note that this is one of the best speakers in the market today. 30, 2017. Owners are also pleased at how solid the cabinet and overall workmanship is. 15, 2021. As a result of our August 2019 update the following speakers came off our recommended list - but you can still read our analysis of them: Submitted by joe (not verified) on Oct. 17, 2018. I have some real nice powered speakers but am not seeing the samson brand is that not good in ratings? So a good starter system for a small venue would be 2 powered mains, 2 powered floor wedges, a subwoofer and a mixing console. Submitted by David Williams (not verified) on Dec. 3, 2020. Get it if you want a great 10" speaker that's loud and portable. Ive accidentally forgotten to turn down the output from the mic position to the line position a during a sound check. Cons Is there a Gearank comparison of 3 way powered pa speakers? Many venue owners that use the speakers also note its durability and step up in build quality versus earlier product iterations in follow up reviews. 21, 2018. The QSC CP12 is a compact powered loudspeaker designed with portability in mind. It also features a built-in 2-channel mixer for single box operation. Submitted by Jason Horton on Aug. 28, 2019. These days, it's no longer surprising to see venues with Behringer gear. Because of the design taking inspiration from line array systems, the dispersion of the midrange and highs were noted to be "room filling" and the lows to have a satisfying punch. You have a job where people have to trust you. There's a reason why so many users are giving the JBL SRX835P 5-star ratings - should be at the top of your list if you're looking for a solid fixed speaker for a medium to big size venue. I had both Alto (InMusic group) and the store I bought my TS110a test it for the fault I had and neither can find a problem with the speaker!? With so many factors to consider, there's really no set standard for determining specific size category. 27, 2021. Usually consisting of either: 2" high horns, 12" speaker mids, & 18" lows/subs(or some similar combo), w/a separate rack of amps to push the spkrs. Submitted by Steve R (not verified) on Nov. 1, 2016.
On the other hand, sound techs appreciate how it can work with various venues and applications. The 5" and 8" series are widely regarded among the best if not the best in their class. The built-in reverb left much to be desired for those who got it for this feature. Max SPL (Sound Pressure Level) is also an important factor to consider when it comes matching speakers with venue size. The great thing about this system is that because the speakers are powered, you wouldn't have to worry too much about impedances and amplifier-speaker matching (though you do have to be aware of your system's current draw on your electrical line!). Some even commend its handling of orchestra and classical style music, pointing to how the KW153 is able to reproduce sonic nuances that otherwise would be lost. For mixers, any mixing console can do. The DBR10 continues to rake in positive reviews from DJs, musicians, sound engineers and many more. 31, 2022. For this February 2022 edition, we retain our categories based on three main price ranges: Sub $500, Sub $1000, and Sub $2000. 2 gigs a week, never flinched, never had to repair, all original drivers, that says something, just get protective bags, whichever speaker you decide on. In particular, the DBR10 features Yamaha's DSP based FIR-X crossover tuning, D-Contour controls, and onboard mixer (2-channel). Submitted by Jason Horton on Apr. Incorporating 175+ ratings and reviews. Overall The QSC K10.2 carries the same features as its smaller sibling, the K8.2, with the main difference being the use of a slightly bigger woofer giving it a bit more bass and volume. Pros You missed all the Cerwin Vega models. 92 out of 100. If there is not you guys should do one, thanks. If you're looking for a compact but capable speaker with multiple uses like mains, monitors or instrument amplification, the QSC CP12 is a good, versatile choice. Cons Submitted by Erik8a (not verified) on Nov. 28, 2016. More importantly, at just 23.2lbs, the DBR10 is lighter than most in its class. Please note, if you are a returning djforums member from prior to 2012 (end of the mayan calendar) and have not yet re-registered, you will need to re-register to the site for 2.0. http://usa.yamaha.com/products/live_es#tab=feature, http://www.altoproaudio.com/download_SpecSheet.pdf, http://www.calimaro.com.br/alto-professional.html, https://www.ptxstore.com/akaipro/pro093881fe671c74, https://www.facebook.com/DJRiddims?ref=hl. Absolutely love my Yamaha DBR10s. Whilst the DXR15s are superior in every regard the Altos sound surprisingly good with good clarity and generous depth of bass. For this 2022 Edition, we conducted an initial survey of major retailers in the USA and placed 96 active speakers on our short-list for closer examination - you can see them in the Music Gear Database. Pros I thought J read where you had Martin XP12 as top speaker but I see here it did not make your list. Don't know if they'll fit in that range. Speaking of which, why aren't 5" speakers included here? I've been told by a few Yamaha DBR owners that they sounded noticeably darker and less clear than the DXR range!? Although Full Compass does sell them, you can't get them at Sweetwater, Amazon, Musicians Friend, Guitar Center, AMS, zZounds, Sam Ash etc. Click here to login, The ability to reply to and create new discussions, Access to members-only giveaways & competitions, Interact with VIP industry experts in our guest Q&As, Access to members-only sub forum discussions, Get INSTANT ACCESS to the world's best private pro audio, Promote your eBay auctions and Reverb.com listings for free.
ESPECIALLY in price/performance comparison! If you're looking for a premium quality 10" powered PA speaker that's still reasonably portable, then check out the QSC K10.2. Today we removed the following speaker due to a lack of availability: Yamaha DXR12. It has two XLR/Line inputs with only one being capable of being used as an input for Mic level signals. 26, 2021. RCF may be out of bounce, but there are others more affordable. Can you possibly give me a rating and a recommendation if at all possible? Do note that only one of the channels is capable of running at mic level gain and the aux channel gain is shared with line level at input 1. Pros You can click here for the JBL and Cerwin Vega speakers, along with their Gearank scores, that made it to our short-list in the Music Gear Database. However, when I corrected the output position to the line level they were working perfectly which shows the protection limiter did its job perfectly. Alto Black 15 sub vs Yamaha DXS 15 vs RCF 705AS A/B tested. Incorporating 175+ ratings and reviews. Experienced users also commend its reliability and how it sounds great even when used for long periods. The impact put a hole through the Alto case. I am puzzled why they dont show up often on the best of reviews. There are a few who note that the overall projection is a bit lacking. It features "Wide-Z" technology that allows it to handle different types of sound sources directly, including mics, line-level signals and instruments with high impedance such as guitar. Ive tried the Yamaha DBR12 and own the larger DXR15s so not a fair comparison. https://m.facebook.com/501898166639804780404/?_rdr, Already have an account? It also features Ethercon connection that lets you get the benefit of HiQnet networking software, and is compatible with different mounting types. The highest rated of them are featured in this guide divided into three main categories: Sub $500, Sub $1000 and Sub $2000, along with a budget friendly option. If you run everything flat using Shute mics you will have zero feedback and it Weill sound fine. Samson are a good brand for many things however they haven't yet had high enough ratings to make it onto our short-lists for powered speakers although their Auro X15D is a candidate that might make it onto our recommended list at the next update of this guide. . Alto TX15? Still, some may want to consider larger speakers or pair it with a subwoofer. Put simply the B112D delivers the essentials well, offering clarity with volume and a pretty respectable level of bass - enough for a pair of them to handle front of house duties in moderately sized spaces. 25, 2018. For more information about our methods see How Gearank Works. It's also popular to use as a floor monitor or as a keyboard/instrument amplifier. Things to consider- Do they sound good. The tonal consistency across the volume range was also praised. Submitted by Jason Horton on Nov. 2, 2016. The main way to set up for live performances is by hooking up the powered speakers directly to a mixer but they can also be used in a variety of other ways such as keyboard amps, drum amps or FRFR speakers for guitar/bass.
Today we removed the QSC KW153 from this guide due to a price increase putting it above the $1500 price limit. Coming in at 27.1 pounds, the speakers are relatively easy to move around too. The K8.2 is one of their top-rated speakers, sporting an 8" speaker and a 2000W amplifier with a built-in 3-channel mixer.
The midrange can be harsh for some. They were using the 12" models as monitor wedges and I was impressed. The TS212 sounded very boomy and scooped when I tried them. Alto TS215 Active 15" Speaker VS. This would most likely be used for smaller to mid sized venues, gigs, parties, etc; say, from 100's to 1,000's of peeps. After about a 2.5+ decade hiatus of music involvement (bands & sound engineering), recently been helping some old friends; so, kinda getting back into it. Try before you buy. Noticed that the Mackie SRM V-Class speakers have not been rated yet. An influx of positive reviews over the years has boosted the B112D's popularity with audio enthusiasts and sound reinforcement pros. Pros Get it if you want a big sound without needing subwoofers. Sound Reinforcement - Forums for Live Sound Professionals - Your Displayed Name Must Be Your Real Full Name To Post In The Live Sound Forums, Topic: Yamaha DBR VS Alto Truesonic? For the price they are hard to beat. Had them about a year, no failures so far after about 40 bar gigs. Calibration was a breeze and the volume and clarity was good even during rock gigs. How do the Martin speakers rate? They're perfectly suitable for DJ'ing and some can even function as standalone PA systems. This makes it ideal for performers who have to carry their own PA equipment. Ive used the Alto TS210. Incorporating 550+ ratings and reviews. Despite it's remarkable performance for the price this is a still a budget level speaker and higher range speakers are likely to sound better. (Read 24015 times), Quote from: richard penrose on December 21, 2014, 05:46:33 PM, Quote from: richard penrose on December 22, 2014, 03:33:51 AM, http://issuu.com/fbtelettronica/docs/x-series_2014_brochure, http://www.fbt.it/ENG/PAE/PRODOTTI/SPEAKERS/X-LITE/. I wished that Tannoy would release a full live PA powered speaker system. I've been an audio engineer for 20 years specializing in rock and metal recordings, and also I play guitar and produce original music for my band and other content creators. 10, 2021. Submitted by Jason Horton on Sep. 9, 2020. So.. Submitted by Jason Horton on Apr. And even a good quality 16 channel board is going to be half the size and weight on the old ones (and also better sound quality). It's also worth mentioning that it has 4 application-specific speaker modes: music, live, monitor and sub. It also gets a thumbs up from guitarists, keyboardists, bassists, vocalists and other musicians who describe it as a full sounding speaker.
You have to LOOK like you're doing the right thing. Alto TS310/Yamaha DBR10 vs. DXR8s for live band. Owners of medium and large venues that use them as "delay speakers" to extend the reach of the sound system note their long term reliability makes them a good pick for permanent installations. I then plugged the same mic + cable into my other TS110a which was next to it and no problem at all. If you're looking for a premium quality 3-way speaker for permanent installation or large venues, then this is your best bet. Submitted by Ike (not verified) on Feb. 20, 2017. There's still so much more from this though such as speaker cables, mics and whatnot but I think this is enough information to get you up to speed for now. Submitted by Jason Horton on Dec. 26, 2016. Another cause of concern is its ABS plastic exterior which some report to be prone to scratches, so proper handling when moving and setting up is advised. Submitted by Andy (not verified) on Oct. 13, 2016. But looking at behringer b112d, and not too concerned about quality of sound, don't really know how much potential loudness would suffer (quoted EPL only 113db, much lower than the others on the list). This smaller setup has worked for me even with louder modern metal bands (believe me they can get loud!). What about the Yamaha DBR12 under $500? You should be advised to include some of the concentric speaker enclosures out there, as powered speakers. It has a peak wattage of 1000 W and a Max SPL of 126 dB; making it loud enough for small venues or medium size conference halls. This is odd as all I was doing was plugging a mic direct into the input. In my brief experience working with a sound system rental service, a 1,000 capacity indoor venue used a combination of line array system speakers, tripod mounted delayed auxilliary speakers at the halfway mark of the venue and two to three subwoofers.
I have three TS210s and they get used several times a week. The advantage of prioritizing dispersion over volume is better performance at all volumes. Apart from this, it's been absolutely fine. Submitted by Henrik Hakansson (not verified) on Dec. 22, 2016.
I worked at the same club about a month ago and out of 5 wedges they had purchased only 3 were still working. QSC is the brand to beat when it comes to quality, reflected by the almost perfect ratings that a number of their products are getting. Hi. Submitted by Robert (not verified) on Jun. Overall It impresses users with how it balances projection, frequency handling and sound clarity, a trait that works well with all PA system applications - from music performances to speeches. *Notes: Gearank = Rating score out of 100. Incorporating 125+ ratings and reviews. What's important is you have enough channels for all input sources.
Pros Yes, for many years I too worked with the big "wall of sound" (as you put it) systems (and the truck required to move those beasts!). You forgot to mention that the ALTO BLACK 15 is also wireless (great feature for weddings). The reason they have not appeared to date, and haven't even made it onto any of our short-lists, is because they're not widely available from US based retailers so they don't have enough people rating and reviewing them for us to confidently rate and recommend them. with these newer 'Powered' Pole systems, which make & model is the Best Bang for the Buck, that will compete, meet, or, if possible, exceed the Full Wall of Sound produced from the older Passive Spkr systems ? Submitted by Djimbe (not verified) on Dec. 23, 2016. Submitted by chris stoyan (not verified) on Dec. 20, 2019.
To get an understanding of our methods please read How Gearank Works. It shines best at acoustic performance venues where detail is favored over loudness. Submitted by Joe (not verified) on Oct. 4, 2019.
I know that this is not a comment about sound but reliability would also tend to be a factor if I were considering these boxes. The iNSPIRE iP300 was designed to sound great at any volume. SRC = Sources, number of gear owner and user opinions analyzed to produce a product's Gearank Rating. Cons
Alden Acosta: Product research.Jason Horton: Illustrating.Daniel Barnett: Editing. Users were initially put off by the lack of an actual large speaker but as they tried out the iP300, however they found the low end to be more than adequate. Cons Incorporating 275+ ratings and reviews. They get used for a lot of varied jobs as wedge monitors, bass amp, keyboard amp and FOH for smaller gigs. Page created in 0.129 seconds with 25 queries. The Peavey RBN 112 has never made it onto our short-list for this guide over several major updates, mainly due to a lack of popularity rather than its ratings, however I've published our rating of it today for all to see: Peavey RBN 112. Excellent and impressive are just two of the many positive adjectives that owners use to describe the QSC CP8. Venues have also changed as larger open air venues utilize larger, mostly active line array systems in conjuction with delayed auxilliary speakers in other parts of the venue to fill in the sound and utilizing powered subwoofers in optimally placed locations (sometimes floated/suspended).
I have four electrovoice Elx 112ps for monitors and two Elx 115ps for mains coupled with a Yamaha digital mixer. I havent tried the QSC tops but I preferred the Alto 10 to the 12s. Given its smaller 8" speaker, some users feel that the low end is lacking despite the specifications. Despite its smaller 8" LF driver compared to most in this price range, the bass is actually present enough to have a full range sound. Submitted by Jason Horton on Apr. You need an account to post a reply. Having a small speaker means that low end and projection is limited, however, this is not as much of a compromise for speech and acoustic guitar. It's no surprise that QSC has become a household name in the industry when you mention the best brands. Reviews report that it works great as a Front of House loudspeaker for small to medium size venues, covering different musical styles. Boycott speaker/amp companies that refuse to publish their continuous/RMS ratings!! Having powered speakers also allows for better scaling should you want to expand to having line arrays, multiple subs and monitors, etc. Users who've spoken to QSC say they will not roll back to earlier firmware, and some are saying that firmware will be updated to the troublesome version when any repairs are done.
Achieving almost perfect ratings across multiple retailers is no mean feat, but the SRX835 gets it done, and should continue to do so for a long time, judging by its ever growing number of 5-star ratings. Yup, one company rated their speaker as 2,000 watts peak and 200 continuous! *Notes: Gearank = Rating score out of 100.
Most of the high ratings the Thump15A gets are from owners who are impressed with its bass response. , As an Amazon Associate we earn from qualifying purchases. The systems you mentioned were considered, they just didn't rate highly enough to make our recommended list. 7, 2020. so the deal fell through for the 8's unfortunately, at least that solves a dilemma, but there's a new one! I did not find them in the database either, just the Dark Matter 112. The alto is $200 to $250. This is a real problem for a lot of people with appropriate signal in, gain at noon and ambient room temps, these things randomly turn off and require a reset procedure (that involves letting it play a 100Hz tone). 97 out of 100. It may lack in features compared to more expensive speakers, but it doesn't compromise the essentials. User reviews range from the speakers being used as mains, floor wedges and instrument amplifiers, showcasing the CP12's versatility.
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