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0000607507 00000 n Each brand listed has an option for either SSQA or JDQA. I was trying to illustrate in this article that weight IS very important. 3.

Applicant credit profile including FICO is used for credit review. I recently purchased a LandPride Grapple for my Massey Ferguson GC1723e.

I have spoken with this vendor.

I bought my 4105 tractor used.

Assuming the price is really $1,213 plus shipping, and if itll go on the JD 1025. Add functionality to your tractor with a 3rd function kit, this will allow you to use attachments like grapples, and many other functions.

Also, remembering your episode where you were moving the sidewalk, the longer tines should allow me to get further under the slab and raise it in a more horizontal position. Dont forget W.R Long for bucket, grapple needs. However, I found a better clip at Tractor Supply that works great and if you do lose a pin, they also have replacement pins. Hi Tim, I hope this the correct place to put this comment/question. For a small tractor like yours, one of the nicest features is being able to open the bucket to dump the load without having to roll the bucket over. You are right about the hydraulics. As you curl the bucket, this bracket hits the underside of the loader boom, forcing it closed. Hydraulic Monoblock Valves are a style of Hydraulic Control valve. You are using an out of date browser.

This section weighs 40 lbs, and is much more cost effective than the clamp section. Tim. John will be put away for the storm in the brush tomorrow w/ attachments where there isnt larger trees. The south is the untapped market for the 4200. Great videos, happy family and Johnny. I think JD is just trying to get you to buy JD parts only for extravagant outrageous prices. 0000623464 00000 n

I still like it. Both of them developed leaks, perhaps because of not being used for so long.

Hmmm, you may well be right Tim but, I was thinking in the exact opposite way. Thanks.

Your site is a tremendous asset to the JD 1 series community and I applaud you for your efforts. Going to find a dealer and hope for a demonstration. The modular options alllow an ultra light weight (single clamp) solution which I would have attempted to use on the huge rock we took out earlier this summer. /H [ 1736 526 ]

if you would go and watch many of his videos, youll see that he has addressed all the things you speak of and more. Hydraulic Thumb for Deere 260B, 270B, and 370B backhoes, Online parts catalogs Incredible Support Resource, The 19-year-olds Opinion on the Honda Ridgeline, 3-Point Quick Hitch Options for Compact Tractors. I used your discount code and spent some time talking to Greg, the owner. Id be surprised.

0000215312 00000 n In addition to the flexibility when using these various configurations, there is another advantage which could prove quite useful for me. Maybe a bit less, maybe a bit more. Mine is the SGC0554.

Which brings you up to roughly $3k (your results may vary based on choices since it is a modular system).

But build the 4-in-1 bucket a little different than most builders. Always consult equipment operator's manual and follow safety instructions before operating or servicing any tractor or equipment, or attempting any task. Lots of money for the one person finance committee to approve. Bluetooth Hearing Protection for Your Compact Tractor! Thanks and God Bless.

Unfortunately, that is where the positive news ends.

It doesnt take too big of a log, concrete, etc to be 400lbs. Maybe we all need to meet somewhere and put all the grapples through their paces. This came from the dealer and it came from deere.I hope you and everyone else doing this all these mods dont ever need a warranty fix. Liked this segment. This is the biggest issue with grapples and sub-compact tractors. Living 20 minutes from Worcester makes it even more attractive.. I purchased the Harbor freight hydraulic cart and slide it under the tractor to drop the frame onto. Which in my case is $150 dollars. And they make buckets, grapples etc out of their own shop. I like that this unit uses the John Deere Quick Attach system, so you can easily switch from your bucket to this and back to the bucket with a minimum of fuss. If spending so much on an attachment, I wouldnt want a couple hundred dollars to cut my lift potential by 40%. If love to hear some honest thoughts and see it considered within a comparison. Doesnt JD know that owners are going to modify the tractor to fit the needs of the operator? The chat worked well, but it was confusing due to 800 coverage and bad voicemail for those numbers.They are limited for dealers in south east. Although shipped to me is just over $1500. I am torn between the three grapples listed, and could see good reasons to buy each of them. For someone in your situation, it would mean you wouldnt have to choose between which item to take to a job, the bucket, the grapple or both. It was really nice of Artillian to give that grapple to you.

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Or trade it in on a different machine that will allow the modifications you want without violating the warranty. Overall a 38% reduction in lift capacity as compared to the rest of the grapples presented here. Are you really willing to do that to save $300-$500??? 0000213088 00000 n I do have bucket forks that I want to replace so it should work for me.I talked with Tom at Attilian and he was very helpful. For the life of me I cannot find it now. While the 3 recommended grapples are specifically made for sub-compact and small compact tractors, they are each built quite differently. Its lots to consider but weight isnt my biggest concern. 1. I knew you were smarter than me.

Great points. With a 450 lb grapple, one would have 250 lb of available lift capacity. I find this terminology hard to compare with the more formal ATSM name (AR400) specified by Precision Manufacturing and Artillian. Tim, I wanted to ask if you had considered a 4-in-1 bucket instead of a grapple? Under-built did you take into consideration the type and quality of high tensile metal that is used in the land pride grapple? Hi Tim, I just want to be sure I order the same equipment you brought through Artillian. It goes crazy in the summer! In April 2018 I took delivery of a JD 1025r. We are actually in between Glacier National Park and the Flathead National Forest. One thing for sure is this grapple wont rob you of vital lifting capacity!

This explains the increased weight over the other solutions. endobj http://www.everythingattachments.com/Tractor-Root-Grapples-s/10568.htm, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5J0H0GikWQ, Single Point Connector for Deere Subcompact Tractors 1025r & 1023e, Kubota BX vs. Deere 1025R Round #1 3 Point Hitch, The Original Tractor Cab Co. (and Tractor Umbrellas), Mower Blades for 54D and 60D mowers (1023e, 1025r, and 1026r), Deere 54D/60D Mid Mount Mower Belt Replacement, 1023E/1025R/1026R/2025R Service Supplies Quick Links, John Deere 260B Backhoe for 1-Series Tractors. Of course, just like the grapple, you will have to add a third function valve to your loader. Simple as that. With the longer lower tines, I think I can slip them under the root and use the weight of the tractor to break them loose.

No digging (EverythingAttach idea is root plowing is handy). It probably wouldnt be the right thing to put on a 40 hp tractor but I wouldnt want a 500 pound grapple hanging off the front of my little 23 hp tractor, you wouldnt be able to pick anything up!

Sure makes it easier to do the job. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. While not as good at picking up brush, the 4-in-1 bucket will allow me to grasp and pickup many of the same items. Sometimes I need that to reach further when I am dumping and to clear the sides of some high trailers or trucks. When I spoke of receiving a Brush crusher for myself I meant for the use to stand at fairs and trade shows to promote sales. Dont ever expect to use for excessive loads. yes, looks like it.

It is made for smaller tractors, the bucket is not much heavier than a standard bucket and they make it with or without teeth with our John Deere style quick connect.

You have the double clamp grapple w/3 rakes? Its like a running back tucking a football into his side. I have the John Deere third function valve on my tractor, so plumbing was no problem, though I did have to relocate the mount on the third function connections to avoid possibly putting the couplings in a bind.

Make sense? I must say, for when I need, the 1025r is perfect. No, we live in the Northwest corner of Montana. For the type of work Ill be doing with it I didnt want the open bottom of the other grapples. I only link to a few of our videos from this website. Ive got the Artillian setup on my 2305 and it rocks. It is easy to get 5% discount simply by signing up for email list. So, from here, youve probably only been exposed to 25-50 of our videos. Just wondering if you have heard anything good or bad about this one. The single clamping model weighs just 241 lbs. This would provide a nice stump removal solution for those of you who do not have a backhoe. And the open cylinders are better protected and have a better looking hinge point. So your article was good but my thought was not to consider the weight of the attachment which would reduce the weight capacity. 0000213807 00000 n This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Theres not a whole lot of videos other than the ones from John Deere (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5J0H0GikWQ).

This grapple might be useful on larger tractors, however, it is not a good fit for a sub-compact. /Type /Catalog

I was just looking at the 1025R on the JD website.

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No weight to the huge bundles and certainly with the right sales push a JDQA grapple without the extra hydraulics would be a good choice for many at the right price. Plus Ive been looking at the root grapple from http://www.roorgrapple.com. Electronically controlled Hydraulic 3rd function kit.

So, with a 200 lb grapple, one would have a 400 lb lift capacity. The biggest difference is the need for a 3rd function hydraulic valve. No one is logging on their properties and its the BRUSH which can be collected in huge bundles that becomes the reason for the need of a grapple. Keep up the good work. I dont trust the shed. I have to say, I am a big fan of Ted, who does the videos of products at Everything Attachments.

I like Longs bucket because it is relatively light weight and opens really wide. The price for the double clamping model, 322DBLSS, is $2245 after applying the TTWT10 coupon code for 10% off. Of course, if you blew up the fuse box or other electrical parts by hard-wiring a faulty light, I would suspect you would find warranty issues. >> 0000210733 00000 n There is an extended piece of the BC-4200 which goes under the loader boom. Wow. We have been to Glacier and Waterton. of Use, Excavator Attachments for Sale - Order Online. This grapple weighs more than double the weight of the rest of the grapples in this roundup. 0 I think this may work better than the ones listed above.

They also have 3rd function kits for nearly every tractor or can piece one together. Thanks for your comment Ken. Lighter-weight than a similarly configured Artillian setup, super-strong, and would do a great job of raking debris and sifting through the dirt for roots. It appears that grade 80 in this document refers to A656 steel. Yes, these are all good choices. The build quality is as good as the artillian and crating was perfect.

Hello Tim, Love your site and I find it very informative. The plates are 3/8 thick AR400 steel on this grapple, making it by far the strongest and toughest built grapple in this roundup. I also purchased a box blade that can front mount on my ssqa, or 3pt mount. Here is a grapple that maybe interesting to add to list. or is it 2 rakes + something else.?

Hi Tim, I look forward every week to your posts! Commercial financing provided or arranged by Express Tech-Financing, LLC pursuant to California Finance Lender License #60DBO54873.

With an overall width of 57, this grapple is just a little wider than Johnnys standard 53 bucket.

Kubota offers a 3rd function connector option for the BX line specifically for grapples, 4 in 1 buckets, etc. Easiest to install.

I would also like to have more forks to pick up smaller items. He does a great job of explaining their products along with suggestions on how to use them for the best results. If so, Im sorry. When you were on the Everything Attachments website, did you check out the third function hydraulic kits they sell. I see $2097 for grapple-rake-grapple, then $549 for the frame. 0000624028 00000 n I am downsizing from a Kubota B3200. It has worked well so far.

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One other thought. I never have really scrolled down when watching youtube videos which would indicate the chance to subscribe. 0000003556 00000 n It also has the longer lower legs than the one you reviewed above. Blessings, Dennis, [] Originally Posted by vila251 Any brand grapple better than the others? When not needed, these components can be stored individually, taking up much less overall storage space than the other options weve discussed.

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<< Maybe well visit them sometime. I know its a little off subject by I just bought a diverter valve kit from http://www.summithydraulics.com and it has a really nice handle replacement with a built in trigger for the 3rd valve and it was half the cost of every other kits I have found.

The Artillian and CTA grapples have a bed which can be used to carry items even without clamping, and also provide the ability to dig a bit deeper, while the Precision grapple is designed to rake up debris and clamp down on those uneven loads of brush.

0000605597 00000 n Because it requires getting down on the ground several times to do this, I have made a couple of thing that significantly make this chore easier for me. 0000630700 00000 n My problem is this. Deere now offers a 3rd function kit for the 1-series that we recommend if you are a new purchaser. Copyright 2022 Sandhills Global | Reproduction without expressed written consent is forbidden.

The best document I could find to describe this ishere.

I have the large JD ballast box and it gets annoying taking up too much room on the rear when manuvering. I bought the factory 3rd function with the tractor last year and installed it myself. Commercial financing provided or arranged by Express Tech-Financing, LLC pursuant to California Finance Lender License #60DBO54873.

Nick asked the question and Tim gave his honest reply. My understanding is that the BC-4200 now offers a bar between them which will keep the two sides in sync. Thanks, Good to know. 0000001552 00000 n It fits right up to the loader after dropping the bucket. Be sure to check your tractor for the loader bucket attachment mechanism, and follow-up with your dealer with questions. I made four ramps out of 2 x 4s laid flat and crisscrossed. I did well with the bucket moving lumber and smaller stuff. 0000003081 00000 n This one adds an additional 250 lbs (450lbs total). Depending how long your warranty is good for. The closest one to me in florida is NC. 2016 John Deere 1025R - - - 50 hr Service cost comparison between dealer and DIY ?? One quick questionI would like to remove the mowers mechanical lift frame for the winter. The previous owner had basically left it parked the entire time he owned it, so it had been manufactured over a year ago but it only had 15 hours on the hour meter and looked brand new. Assets aged 10-15 years or more may require increased finance charges. 0000003162 00000 n It may be theyre including all the other stuff, but its not shown. /Length 435 We have a wide viewership on YouTube, with over 11 million views at this point. Plus, being a tar heel from birth, I like that his company is located in a small town here in NC.

Tim, I decided to buy a grapple from Carolina Attachments in Thomasville, NC.

My in-laws live pretty close to them. Financing approval may require pledge of collateral as security. Artilan is too expensive and you have to slide each attachment on and off the fork frame.

After looking at it more closely online and seeing its simplicity, I think its overpriced. Each clamp section contains its own hydraulic cylinder and weighs 90 lbs. Or maybe Ill contact the company and let them know Ill stand at a local trade show here in my neck of the woods to promote the product if they send one with literature and billboards. Your response was well they havent sent one to me yet. Were you going to promote on a one to one sales pitch to prospective customers? First Ive heard of them, Ken. Both of these grapples will be well suited for your subcompact, or small compact utility tractor! I like the W. R. Long Ultra Jaw 2 4-in-1 bucket. These valves have power beyond Capability (Power Beyond Adapter Sleeve is required SKU: P40G-PB), as well as the ability to operate as a closed-center valve (Closed-Center Plug Required SKU: P40G-CC). As much pressure that is seen in that area in normal bucket operation it could be a future area for cracking. startxref It works well. I think you have identified the weak point of the BC4200 solution. Hi Jim, I have removed my Mower frame several times. The Wicked, hands down Just search Wicked Grapple and see how much feedback youll find. The tone of your email shows some frustration, but Im having trouble understanding the source of the frustration. I have to disagree with Tims comment that it would not be good at digging out roots. It still costs $1050. For that reason, I did not include it in the original version of this article. For the rest of this article we will focus on grapples specifically designed for sub-compact tractors. Press J to jump to the feed. 0000000017 00000 n What more could one ask for. You will need to pop off the QA if you want the BC-3000. The chart shows a tensile strength of 90,000 psi, vs. AR400s 177,000 psi. Spend limited amount of time at trade shows except for midwest. I have the same question for Tim. Goofy setup, I admit, but once I entered zip-code, it dropped the shipping to a more reasonable amount. You must log in or register to reply here. Pat, Yes, it helps very much.

This grapple uses 5/16 grade 80 (see above) steel for additional strength. I am really almost at ground zero because my forks are the removable screw-ons. The Precision Mini 322 grapple is quite impressive. 0000004247 00000 n Im showing $1,215 for the BC 3000 and $1,459 for the BC 4200. Hope you find your needed answer. Learn how your comment data is processed. /O 289 I believed I was keeping an eye on new information that was coming up on your website. Do you have any experience with the Landpride?

http://www.loaders.com/Brush-Crusher BC-3000 It a Westendorf Mfg Company product.

0000215654 00000 n Applicant credit profile including FICO is used for credit review. Now is a good time to grease those two impossible to get at engine driveshaft fitting that Tim recently did an excellent video on. I noticed you have a pallet rack in your building for your attachments.

Would love your current thoughts on grapples. >> The other grapples in the roundup are around 200 lbs.

Perhaps this is a topic for a future article. With lift capacities of under 1000 lbs (to full height), we simply cannot afford to devote 400 lbs of that to the grapple attachment itself. Love your videos; especially the service and upgrade ones. That tends to take the most out of me and the most time. In each video, I clearly state that they provided it to us. Ideally a brush crusher across the south would be a great addition to a tractor. The jaws of the Mini 322 opens to a height of 36. The single clamping model, 322SGLSS, is priced at $2155 after the TTWT10 discount. 0000619842 00000 n 0000615341 00000 n Ive also ordered a Precision Manufacturing Mini Add-A-Grapple https://precisionmfg.com/mini/ This unit adds the grapple to the bucket and only adds 125 pounds of additional weight. diverter massey artillian massey diverter mahindra artillian 26l

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